Bali Millis Preview and Information: [bali-bali] Re: bisnis property di Bali

bennuuulll Pak Gede Sanat Kumara...

Bali is the goose that lay the golden eggs,
Look after the goose , feed them well , let her lay a lots of golden
eggs , then sell the eggs ,DO NOT SELL THE GOOSE.

eeh.. ngomong ngomong lama ,Pak Gede Sanat Kumara..
potrek nae saya sekali , biar punya potrek bagus satu agar
bisa di frame untuk di crematorium nanti... hehehe..

shanti is buat memory sebelum jalan...

-- In bali-bali@yahoogroups.com, "I Gede Sanat Kumara"
<abltechnet@...> wrote:
>
> Mbok Vieb, ini seperti mata pisau (good & bad), satu pihak perlu
> investasi (supaya ekonomi berputar) satu pihak jangan - Bali
akan "hancur"
>
> Kan sekarang tergantung kita(pemerentah dan rakyat) bagaimana
mengatur
> secara cerdas supaya dua faktor tadi jalan????
>
> He.he.he datang dah.."Duit" aturan yang sudah baik di obrak abrik -
> itu lah buat bali "rusak"
>
> Kadang kala yang pembuat aturan yang merusak - moral
bejat..lagi "Si
> Duit" datang..he..he. I leave it to you all guys!!
>
>
> --- In bali-bali@yahoogroups.com, "Asana Viebeke Lengkong"
> <asanasw@> wrote:
> >
> > P Darma Putra yang baik,
> >
> > Ini sih hanya masalah rebutan kapling saja.... sama seperti Isu
> Israel-palestina, kalau di bali lebih ke bisnisnya.... jadi
> keniscayaan karena di bali itu laris manis....
> >
> > Amos Oz dialam bukunya How to cure a fanatic, 2002) sastrawan ini
> memahami konflik ini :"... is not a religious war, not a war of
> cultures, not a disagreement between tow tradions, but simply a
> real-estate dispute over whose house this is"
> >
> > di bali juga akan terjadi begitu dengan konteks sedikit berbeda
> karena bisniss tentunya akan berdampak ke livelyhood - dan
> ecosystem... ya yang kasian adalah orang Bali yang ignorance, yang
> melalui system di bodohi terus...
> >
> > apa yang mesti diwariskan kepada anak cucu??? yang pastikan kalau
> kita sudah saling bunuh karena property ya tidak ada warisan, dan
> mungkin juga tidak akan ada anak cucu karena sudah akan punah
karena
> nggak ada makan, disengat matahari yang terlalu panas, bencana alam
> yang tidak bisa di kendalikan atau tidak terkelola (cuman ada UU
nya
> saja).
> >
> > Penjualan property akan terus berlangsung itu kenyataannya, para
> pemimpin kita mendukung segala investasi yang masuk tanpa laku
> verifikasi yang cerdas. Yang pasti kan harus nyetor ke partai jadi
> harus ada komisi karena harus terpilih lagi dong.... tragis juga
> ya.... pemimpin kita yang mestinya mengentas bangsanya dari
> keterpurukan malah menjadi penghisap kesejahteraan rakyat, dan
> keluarnya malam malam seperti drakula
> >
> > Kalau ada caleg yang bilang ah saya mau coba nggak pake duit...
> mimpi kali hari gini.....
> >
> >
> > Jadi saudara saudara ku:
> >
> > Kita ini kan musti menjalani hidup di atas landasan prinsip yang
> universal dan bisa diterima semuanya... jadi banyak lo tanggung
jawab
> yang musti dijawab...... to be continued.....
> >
> > vieb
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Darma Putra
> > To: bali-bali@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 7:37 PM
> > Subject: [bali-bali] bisnis property di Bali
> >
> >
> > Yang tertarik mengamati bisnis properti di Bali, berita di
bawah
> mungkin memikat atau mengharukan. Meski dunia di ambang krisis
global,
> Bali tetap dilukiskan dengan manis sehingga terus mampu memikat
> semut-semut investor untuk memacu frekuensi jual-beli properti di
Bali.
> >
> > Ini mungkin tanda-tanda BALI mencerminkan benarnya plesetan
> Bakalan Amblas Lantaran Investor.
> >
> > darma
> > ----------
> > sumber:
> http://www.businessspectator.com.au/bs.nsf/Article/Balis-property-
market-insulated-PM85X?OpenDocument
> > Bali's property market 'insulated'
> > AAP
> > Australian villa owners say Bali's property market is more
> resilient than that in their own country, as the global financial
> crisis worsens.
> >
> > The island's villa market has experienced exponential growth in
> recent years amid record tourism numbers, with villas in prime
> locations going for up to $US3 million ($A4.62 million) off-the-
plan.
> > Asia-based expatriates seeking a holiday home cum rental
property
> have driven the buying. With foreigners banned from bank financing,
> they pay cash, giving Bali some insulation from the credit crunch
> hurting other markets, property agents said.
> >
> > Major hotel projects have been abandoned, enquiries are drying
up
> and supply of villas on the market is increasing, but there's no
> widespread panic-selling, they said.
> >
> > Half-finished estates offer the best bargains, particularly
around
> the fast-growing Bukit Peninsula overlooking Bali's famous surf
> breaks. Desperate to complete projects sold off-the-plan,
developers
> are discounting villa prices by up to 20 per cent.
> >
> > Otherwise, prices of independent villas remain fairly stable,
at
> least for now.
> >
> > "Like anywhere else in the world we are feeling the downturn,
but
> the villa market is still strong," said Shush Ingram from Bali
> Property Consultancy.
> >
> > But while wealthy Europeans, Americans and Russians sniff out
> buying opportunities, Australians have been priced out of the
market
> following the crash in the Australian dollar.
> > Many have backed away from deals to buy villas priced in US
> dollars - now some 40 per cent more expensive.
> >
> > On the flipside, the US dollar's strength offers those
Australians
> who already own Bali property an opportunity to cash in and buy
> cheaply back home.
> >
> > "Everybody is now deciding to sell before things get any worse,
> and because now would be nice to get some US dollars," said Marcus
> Fenton from the Jimbaran office of real estate chain Exotiq
> Properties. He is marketing some 60 villas listed by Australians.
> >
> > For long-term Bali residents David and Robyn Schonell, the
> currency gain is a sweetener, but their decision to list their
villa
> less than a year after finishing construction is mainly to take
> advantage of falling values in Perth.
> >
> > "We've got no debt and we're probably going to double our money
> here, so we can buy a property in Australia and still have enough
> money leftover to buy a bit of land here, and do it all again,"
said
> David, who runs a pearling operation in Bali.
> >
> > "We're not in any hurry though. We've got a pretty hefty price
on
> ours and if we don't sell we couldn't care less."
> >
> > The Schonell's are looking for $US900,000 ($A1.39 million) for
> their 470 square metre house, which sits on a large block 150
metres
> from the beach in Canggu, an expatriate enclave north of Seminyak,
> Bali's priciest location.
> >
> > Perth businessman Alan Morgan is similarly bullish about a
project
> he is financing and consulting on, Batubelig Residences between
> Seminyak and Canggu.
> >
> > He has built two villas that sold off-the-plan to expatriates
in
> Dubai and Jakarta for $US1.2 million ($A1.85 million) and $US1.5
> million ($A2.31 million). He recently raised the remaining two
villas
> by $US100,000 ($A153,964.59) each to reflect higher construction
costs.
> >
> > "I'm not at all concerned," said Morgan. "I think Bali's real
> estate market is holding up definitely better than Perth,
particularly
> at the top-end. The average growth on land value in Seminyak is
about
> 25 per cent a year."
> >
> > Returns like that have attracted a stampede of foreign
developers
> and investors over the last decade, sparking nationalist outcry
from
> community and political leaders who urge Balinese not to sell
> ancestral lands.
> >
> > Although Indonesian law bans foreign ownership of land, villa
> investors commonly circumvent this by using an Indonesian nominee,
> sometimes recommended by their lawyer or adviser.
> > The nominee signs over practical control to the foreigner
through
> various contracts including power of attorney and a fictitious loan
> agreement.
> >
> > Real estate agents say it's a watertight scheme. But legal
> uncertainty and corruption accompany any investment in Indonesia,
and
> there have been instances of nominees gaining legal control of
> properties.
> >
> > Concerns have also been raised by fresh allegations that a
> business consultancy - partly run by expatriates - has failed to
> disburse millions of dollars belonging to clients to settle land
and
> property acquisitions.
> >
> > "I wouldn't say these kinds of things never happen, but they
> aren't common and you've just really got to do your homework," said
> Ingram.
> >
> > But David Schonell said the returns are worth the risk.
> >
> > "Just the price of our land has gone up threefold since 2005
when
> we bought it. Like any business decision, we've just got to be
smart
> about it," he said.
> >
> > "If you do it the correct way and you do all your due
diligence on
> the property, your research into the nominee and put together all
the
> appropriate paperwork, then I think it's a very secure
investment."
> >
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