Bali Millis Preview and Information: [bali-bali] Re: bisnis property di Bali

Mbok Vieb, ini seperti mata pisau (good & bad), satu pihak perlu
investasi (supaya ekonomi berputar) satu pihak jangan - Bali akan "hancur"

Kan sekarang tergantung kita(pemerentah dan rakyat) bagaimana mengatur
secara cerdas supaya dua faktor tadi jalan????

He.he.he datang dah.."Duit" aturan yang sudah baik di obrak abrik -
itu lah buat bali "rusak"

Kadang kala yang pembuat aturan yang merusak - moral bejat..lagi "Si
Duit" datang..he..he. I leave it to you all guys!!

--- In bali-bali@yahoogroups.com, "Asana Viebeke Lengkong"
<asanasw@...> wrote:
>
> P Darma Putra yang baik,
>
> Ini sih hanya masalah rebutan kapling saja.... sama seperti Isu
Israel-palestina, kalau di bali lebih ke bisnisnya.... jadi
keniscayaan karena di bali itu laris manis....
>
> Amos Oz dialam bukunya How to cure a fanatic, 2002) sastrawan ini
memahami konflik ini :"... is not a religious war, not a war of
cultures, not a disagreement between tow tradions, but simply a
real-estate dispute over whose house this is"
>
> di bali juga akan terjadi begitu dengan konteks sedikit berbeda
karena bisniss tentunya akan berdampak ke livelyhood - dan
ecosystem... ya yang kasian adalah orang Bali yang ignorance, yang
melalui system di bodohi terus...
>
> apa yang mesti diwariskan kepada anak cucu??? yang pastikan kalau
kita sudah saling bunuh karena property ya tidak ada warisan, dan
mungkin juga tidak akan ada anak cucu karena sudah akan punah karena
nggak ada makan, disengat matahari yang terlalu panas, bencana alam
yang tidak bisa di kendalikan atau tidak terkelola (cuman ada UU nya
saja).
>
> Penjualan property akan terus berlangsung itu kenyataannya, para
pemimpin kita mendukung segala investasi yang masuk tanpa laku
verifikasi yang cerdas. Yang pasti kan harus nyetor ke partai jadi
harus ada komisi karena harus terpilih lagi dong.... tragis juga
ya.... pemimpin kita yang mestinya mengentas bangsanya dari
keterpurukan malah menjadi penghisap kesejahteraan rakyat, dan
keluarnya malam malam seperti drakula
>
> Kalau ada caleg yang bilang ah saya mau coba nggak pake duit...
mimpi kali hari gini.....
>
>
> Jadi saudara saudara ku:
>
> Kita ini kan musti menjalani hidup di atas landasan prinsip yang
universal dan bisa diterima semuanya... jadi banyak lo tanggung jawab
yang musti dijawab...... to be continued.....
>
> vieb
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Darma Putra
> To: bali-bali@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 7:37 PM
> Subject: [bali-bali] bisnis property di Bali
>
>
> Yang tertarik mengamati bisnis properti di Bali, berita di bawah
mungkin memikat atau mengharukan. Meski dunia di ambang krisis global,
Bali tetap dilukiskan dengan manis sehingga terus mampu memikat
semut-semut investor untuk memacu frekuensi jual-beli properti di Bali.
>
> Ini mungkin tanda-tanda BALI mencerminkan benarnya plesetan
Bakalan Amblas Lantaran Investor.
>
> darma
> ----------
> sumber:
http://www.businessspectator.com.au/bs.nsf/Article/Balis-property-market-insulated-PM85X?OpenDocument
> Bali's property market 'insulated'
> AAP
> Australian villa owners say Bali's property market is more
resilient than that in their own country, as the global financial
crisis worsens.
>
> The island's villa market has experienced exponential growth in
recent years amid record tourism numbers, with villas in prime
locations going for up to $US3 million ($A4.62 million) off-the-plan.
> Asia-based expatriates seeking a holiday home cum rental property
have driven the buying. With foreigners banned from bank financing,
they pay cash, giving Bali some insulation from the credit crunch
hurting other markets, property agents said.
>
> Major hotel projects have been abandoned, enquiries are drying up
and supply of villas on the market is increasing, but there's no
widespread panic-selling, they said.
>
> Half-finished estates offer the best bargains, particularly around
the fast-growing Bukit Peninsula overlooking Bali's famous surf
breaks. Desperate to complete projects sold off-the-plan, developers
are discounting villa prices by up to 20 per cent.
>
> Otherwise, prices of independent villas remain fairly stable, at
least for now.
>
> "Like anywhere else in the world we are feeling the downturn, but
the villa market is still strong," said Shush Ingram from Bali
Property Consultancy.
>
> But while wealthy Europeans, Americans and Russians sniff out
buying opportunities, Australians have been priced out of the market
following the crash in the Australian dollar.
> Many have backed away from deals to buy villas priced in US
dollars - now some 40 per cent more expensive.
>
> On the flipside, the US dollar's strength offers those Australians
who already own Bali property an opportunity to cash in and buy
cheaply back home.
>
> "Everybody is now deciding to sell before things get any worse,
and because now would be nice to get some US dollars," said Marcus
Fenton from the Jimbaran office of real estate chain Exotiq
Properties. He is marketing some 60 villas listed by Australians.
>
> For long-term Bali residents David and Robyn Schonell, the
currency gain is a sweetener, but their decision to list their villa
less than a year after finishing construction is mainly to take
advantage of falling values in Perth.
>
> "We've got no debt and we're probably going to double our money
here, so we can buy a property in Australia and still have enough
money leftover to buy a bit of land here, and do it all again," said
David, who runs a pearling operation in Bali.
>
> "We're not in any hurry though. We've got a pretty hefty price on
ours and if we don't sell we couldn't care less."
>
> The Schonell's are looking for $US900,000 ($A1.39 million) for
their 470 square metre house, which sits on a large block 150 metres
from the beach in Canggu, an expatriate enclave north of Seminyak,
Bali's priciest location.
>
> Perth businessman Alan Morgan is similarly bullish about a project
he is financing and consulting on, Batubelig Residences between
Seminyak and Canggu.
>
> He has built two villas that sold off-the-plan to expatriates in
Dubai and Jakarta for $US1.2 million ($A1.85 million) and $US1.5
million ($A2.31 million). He recently raised the remaining two villas
by $US100,000 ($A153,964.59) each to reflect higher construction costs.
>
> "I'm not at all concerned," said Morgan. "I think Bali's real
estate market is holding up definitely better than Perth, particularly
at the top-end. The average growth on land value in Seminyak is about
25 per cent a year."
>
> Returns like that have attracted a stampede of foreign developers
and investors over the last decade, sparking nationalist outcry from
community and political leaders who urge Balinese not to sell
ancestral lands.
>
> Although Indonesian law bans foreign ownership of land, villa
investors commonly circumvent this by using an Indonesian nominee,
sometimes recommended by their lawyer or adviser.
> The nominee signs over practical control to the foreigner through
various contracts including power of attorney and a fictitious loan
agreement.
>
> Real estate agents say it's a watertight scheme. But legal
uncertainty and corruption accompany any investment in Indonesia, and
there have been instances of nominees gaining legal control of
properties.
>
> Concerns have also been raised by fresh allegations that a
business consultancy - partly run by expatriates - has failed to
disburse millions of dollars belonging to clients to settle land and
property acquisitions.
>
> "I wouldn't say these kinds of things never happen, but they
aren't common and you've just really got to do your homework," said
Ingram.
>
> But David Schonell said the returns are worth the risk.
>
> "Just the price of our land has gone up threefold since 2005 when
we bought it. Like any business decision, we've just got to be smart
about it," he said.
>
> "If you do it the correct way and you do all your due diligence on
the property, your research into the nominee and put together all the
appropriate paperwork, then I think it's a very secure investment."
>
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